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Operation: Night Training Navigation Flight
Date: 15/16th March 1950 (Wednesday/Thursday)
Unit: No. 230 OCU (Operational Conversion Unit)
Type: Avro Lincoln Mk2
Serial: B2
Code: RF511
Base: RAF Scampton, Lincolnshire
Location: Between Dadfydd and Carnedd Llewellyn, near Snowdon, Wales
Pilot: Sqr/Ldr. John Talbot Lovell Shore MC. AFC. 39177 RAF Age 33. Killed (1)
Fl/Eng: Engr II. Ronald Albert Forsdyke DFC. 621781 RAF Age 29. Killed (2)
Nav: Fl/Lt. Cyril Alfred Lindsey 168013 RAF Age 26. Killed (3)
R/Op/: Sig III. Harold Henry Charman 3045502 RAF Age 22. Killed (4)
Air/Gnr: Gnr II. Godfrey Leo Cundy 1815207 RAF Age 26. Killed (5)
Air/Gnr: Gnr I. Robert Henry Wood 1110083 RAF Age 27. Killed
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REASON FOR LOSS:
Avro Lincoln RF511 took off from RAF Scampton, Lincolnshire at 19:10 hrs for a night training navigation exercise. The aircraft was making a controlled descent through thick cloud, having been diverted to RAF Valley in Anglesey due to the very bad weather. The aircraft may have been on the wrong course which resulted in it crashing between Dadfydd and Carnedd Llewellyn, near Snowdon, Wales at 14:30hrs.
Avro Lincoln Mk II (courtesy Imperial War Museum) John Talbot Lovell Shore (courtesy of the Shore family)
Parts of the wreckage of Avro Lincoln RF511 taken by the Shore brothers when they visited the crash site (courtesy of the Shore family)
Battle Cemetery, Sussex (courtesy of the CWGC)
Headstone for John Talbot Lovell Shore (courtesy of the Shore family)
The memorial plaque was erected at the crash site by Rex, Mark and Ian Shore in memory of all the crew who lost their lives that night. (courtesy of the Shore family)
Burial Details:
Acting Squadron Leader John Talbot Lovell Shore was also awarded the AFC (Air Force Cross) as per London Gazette 1st January 1944 'Squadron Leader J.T.L. Shore, Experimental Section RAE, This officer is a test pilot and has commanded a detached flight for the last 8 months.
This flight carried out test of aircraft flying into balloon barrage wires and various anti-raider devices. Squadron Leader Shore has completed 271 hours flying on this work and has made 330 impacts into barrage wires. The work requires a high degree of courage and considerable ability as a pilot, and the successes which have been obtained have been almost entirely due to Squadron Leader Shore (supported by C.R.D.,M.A.P.)'
Engr II. Ronald Albert Forsdyke DFC. Maeshyeryd Cemetery, Holyhead, Anglesey. Grave section 3. Grave No. 325. Son of Ernest Henry and Mary Ann Forsdyke. Husband of Eileen J. Forsdyke. (2) Ronald was born on the 1st March 1921. Ronald had been awarded the DFC after completing a tour of duty with courage and devotion to duty while serving with No 61 (RCAF) Squadron
Fl/Lt. Cyril Alfred Lindsey. Willesden New Cemetery, Brent, London. Grave Section A. Grave No. 517. Son of Edward William and Elizabeth Sarah Lindsey. Husband of Eileen E. Lindsey. (3) Born on the 2nd January 1924. Pilot Officer on probation Cyril Alfred Lindsey was confirmed as a Pilot Officer and promoted to Flying Officer on the 16th September 1945. On the 16th September 1948 Cyril was then promoted to Flight Lieutenant
Sig III. Harold Henry Charman. Maeshyeryd Cemetery, Holyhead, Anglesey. Grave section 3. Grave No. 326. Son of Ernest James Luke and Ethel Charman. (4) Harold was born in 1928
Left: Godfrey Leo Cundy (courtesy of John MS Cundy)
Gnr II. Godfrey Leo Cundy. Huyton Parish Church, Liverpool. Grave No. 834. No further information of next of kin as yet (4).Gnr I. Robert Henry Wood. Willesden New Cemetery, Brent, London. Grave section Z. Grave No. 368. No further information of next of kin as yet
Researched by: Kate Tame, Senior Editor Aircrew Remembered, and for all the relatives and friends of the crew. With special thanks to Sqr/Ldr. Shore's sons Rex, Mark and Ian for their invaluable support and material, and thanks also to Colin Cummings - Last Take-Off, and Veterans UK
For further detailed accounts, we recommend the following publications: Bombers First and Last by Gordon Thorburn ISBN 1 86105 946 9. A Century of Air Warfare with Nine (IX) Squadron RAF by Gordon Thorburn ISBN 978 78303 634 9. Footprints on the Sands of Time by Oliver Clutton-Brock ISBN 1 904010 00 0. Last Take Off by Colin Cummings ISBN 0 9526619 2 6.
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