03/04.10.1943 No. 623 Squadron Stirling III EH994 IC-P P/O. Thomas J. Muir
Date: 3rd/4th October 1943
Unit: No. 623 Squadron
Type: Stirling III
Base: RAF Downham Market, Norfolk
Location: Harleshausen, Kassel,
Pilot: P/O Thomas James Muir J/21330 RCAF Age 23. Killed.
Fl/Eng: Sgt. Islwyn Jenkins 1129497 RAFVR Age ? Killed.
Nav: Sgt. Ashley William Frederick Notman 1321158 RAFVR Age ? Killed.
Air/Bmr: Sgt. Lloyd Webster Moore RCAF Age 23. PoW No: 259890 Camp: Stalag Mühlberg-Elbe (1)
W/Op/Air/Gnr: Sgt. John Dawson 1386587 RAFVR Age 20. Killed.
Air/Gnr: Sgt. Thomas McPhaile Martin R/184683 RCAF Age 19. Killed.
Air/Gnr: Sgt. Roy Vincent Bernard Knox R/179319 RCAF Age 19. Killed.
REASON FOR LOSS:
Took-off at 19.04 hrs from RAF Downham Market. Shot down by a night-fighter flown by Major Helmut Lent (2) Stab NJG3, crashing 22.27 hrs at Harleshausen, Kassel. (This was his 79 confirmed kill) Those who died were buried locally, since when their bodies have been brought to Hannover Cemetery.
At first point of research we placed it at Haste with the Luftwaffe pilot as Lt Hans-Heinz Augenstein of 7./NJG1 but it is now thought probable that he shot down the other 623 Squadron Stirling EF158 lost on this same raid.
Stirling EF158 IC-S was flown by P/O Keith Shaw from New Zealand, who was killed, along with 5 other crew members - 2 made PoW.
Above left: Pilot - P/O. Muir. (Scott) Middle: Navigator - Sgt. Notman (courtesy of his cousin John Shorrocks) Right: Air gunner Sgt. Martin (courtesy Deborah Martin Arrand - relative)
Stirlings in formation.
Remarkable photographs showing Sgt. Lloyd Moore 'at work'. (courtesy David Moore)
Sgt. Moore and friends (courtesy David Moore)
Left: Mr. Lloyd Moore, pictured in 1982
(1) Mr. Lloyd Moore sadly died in 1986 of cancer. His son, David, sent us a selection of his poems written whilst a PoW. Our poetry section shows these.
He was born Lloyd Webster Moore on August 19th 1923 in Saint John New Brunswick. Grew up in Saint John and attended local schools.
He joined the RCAF in the Fall of 1941 aged 18 and took his training in Paulson, Manatoba. Posted overseas in January 1943. Lloyd's parents were Philip S. Moore and Ellen Moore (née McAndrew).
He also had a sister and brother. His brother, Darrell lives in Saint John and was in the RCAF during the war. Married in September 1945 and they had two children, David and Don. His wife still lives in Saint John and has 4 grand children and 6 great grandchildren.
(2) Oberst (Posth) Helmut Lent went on to claim 102 night fighter kills and a further 8 kills before on the 7th October 1944 he died after suffering injuries sustained during a crash landing on the 5th October 1944 in his Ju 88 G-6 at Paderborn Airfield following engine failure and subsequent collision with a high tension cable.
Right: Major Helmut Lent of Stab NJG3
His crew were rescued - injured from the crash. Walter Kubisch (radio operator) and Hermann Klöss (2nd radio operator) died the same day, Werner Kark (War correspondent and Air/Gnr) died the following morning.
P/O Thomas James Muir. Hanover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.4. Son of Thomas Lindsay and Ethel Muir of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Sgt. Islwyn Jenkins. Hanover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.1. NoK details currently not available - are you able to assist completion of these and any other information?
Sgt. Ashley William Frederick Notman. Hanover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.3. Son of William and Susan Notman. No town of origin details currently available - are you able to assist completion of these and any other information?
Sgt. John Dawson. Hanover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.2. Son of John Henry and Marie Dawson, of Bognor Regis, Sussex, England.
Sgt. Thomas McPhaile Martin. Hannover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.5. Son go Mr. J.G. Martin of Englehart, Ontario, Canada.
Sgt. Roy Vincent Bernard Knox. Hanover War Cemetery. Grave 1.H.6. Son of Gordon Knox of Montreal, Quebec. Canada.
Researched for relatives of the crew including, David Moore, John Shorrocks, Deborah Martin Arrand. For further details our thanks to the following, Bill Chorley - 'Bomber Command Losses Vol's. 1-9, plus ongoing revisions', Fred Paradie - 'Paradie Archive'. Dr. Theo E.W. Boiten and Mr. Roderick J. Mackenzie - 'Nightfighter War Diaries Vol's. 1 and 2', Martin Middlebrook and Chris Everitt - 'Bomber Command War Diaries (Updated 2014 version), Tom Kracker - 'Kracker Luftwaffe Archives'. Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
Sgt. Moore and fellow trainees RCAF. Do you recognise anyone - larger version available on request? (courtesy David Moore)